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McMullin of Cape Breaton
Title: McMullin of Cape Breaton |
Posted by: sheldon sim on 02-07-2012 |
Discussion: Hi
My mothers family came from South Uist.
Aonghas Iain Nill MacMullin (MacGillemhaol) his wife Kate Walker and 9 children all born in South Uist arrived in Canada around 1840 Aonghas and all his sons were pipers.
Aonghas was son of Iain who was son of Nill, Aonghas had a brother Niall Iain Nill MacMullin married to Mairi MacPhee we think he was a tailor Niall and Mairi died in South Uist but 5 of their children came to Canada.
All lived in the Cape Breaton area , Today the family is very very large , we live in all parts of North America.
We would like to know more about the history of the family were they from Ireland , Scotland or Norse? Would there be a cousin still in the area.
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Posted by: Lurose Hickey on 17-11-2012 |
I just wanted to wish everyone a Happy thanksgiving this month...I know it is an American celebration but that is alright ....
I am still searching my MacMullin/MacMillion link. I don't think we are really MacMillion...I do not find that name in Canada or Ireland to match up with the records...But then I am only looking for the time frame of 1500 to 1750.....Mid 1700 is when the McMillion name shows in PA, NY, and VA.....The McMullin landed in the Carolinas, were they part of the Argyll movement ?
Sheldon as far as I can see, yes we are Norse and MacNeil. You would need to read the ancient history of the Norse King and the MacNeil.....there was a union there, and we may be the biproduct.....
I hope all is well and good, America is rocking and rolling since the latest election.....If I am deported, Scotland, here I come.....lol..
Lu rose.... |
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Posted by: Lurose Hickey on 20-09-2012 |
Hello everyone....
Not much new news to report from here. I have been reading a lot of the old Irish history and find it interesting to say the least.
I can now explain my bloodline.
The cousin in West Virginia that first told me we were McMillions over 10 years ago has stepped forward. Upon receiving an email, he so states ::
His Aunt Lucille Williams Cutlip told him, cousin, that my grandfather, Corneious Hurley Williams told the family ::::
The family were McMillions, from Scotland, due to the Catholic Protestant reformation, the Presbys were sent away, presumably to Ireland... They were in Ireland anumber of years then upon that uprising, they all came to Canada and US...VA, PA and Md....
The McMullins were in Ebert county GA....The McMillans stayed around NYC and PA.....My McMillions went on to Virginia and started sugar and tobacco plantations....It is stated several changed their names being Jacobite supporters, ....that is why my grandfather Corneilous stated they chose Williams as an alternative...
The John McMillion and the John Williams in my DNA pattern are the same person...Grant and I have the same DNA for 28 generations...
Thanks..
LuRose... |
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Posted by: Lurose Hickey on 17-08-2012 |
The little group of 5 are together on Family Tree DNA ...Look under Viking, L165/S68. I believe that is it....also check the R1b1a2a1a1b5b group.
A John Mc Million, a John Williams, NeilMacNeil and Ruardri MacNeil are listed in our own Viking categorey because we hae on allel in the Williams that is a possible Jewish marker.....The cheif left Ireland way back, ancient.....I was looking today at his sept lines and took a Gilchrist a minister from Scotland and three or four families with him to PEI.. Now I have come to the conclusion that none of us match the MacMillan, or the Williams DNA We are and have always been McMillion and not Williams, this was a fluke upon arrival in America.....a language snafu if you wish....
If you want to Google,, the ancient chief from Ireland to PEI, Canada,,,,,that will have all this information.....But since we have thougt for 300 years we were Williams, we never had a reason to check anything out... Now that we need a paper trail back to him, we cannot do it because up until 2009, we never knew it existed....
Sorry Angus, I am a windy tonight. !!! Kelly\'s wedding is next April at Balgownie....If the chief is in Edinbourgh, I hope to be able to meet with him....and Alasdair MacDonald as well....
If you have problems deciphering this info....send me a note and I will go back and get the links for you....
Sincerely...
LuRose.. |
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Posted by: Anne Marie (MacKinnon) on 17-08-2012 |
A late posting but may be of help to others doing genealogy research.
I have had a look through my info. and here\'s what I have found.
Angus MacMillan & Catherine Walker
Children all born Daliburgh, Boisdale, S/U
Baptism dates recorded in Bornish, Howmore, S/U
Donald 22 Apr 1821
Evan 19 Oct 1823
Blank (Son) 26 Oct 1825
John 7 Sep 1828
Ann 11 Jul 1830
With the info. above with nothing recorded after 1830, I would assume the others to have been born prior to 1821? There are some gaps/missing & torn pages etc. in my transcriptions though.
I also done a search for children of Neil MacMillan & Mary MacPhee, to no avail unfortunately.
I did find a Neil MacMillan & Mary Steele with children born in Frobost which isn\'t too far Northwards from Daliburgh for anyone interested in that line.
Regards,
Annemarie. |
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Posted by: Angus MacMillan on 15-07-2012 |
Hello again: A couple more things occur to me.
The rent rolls for South Uist are a bit limited both because, until crofting was the universal land tenure system by 1818, some townships listed simply a single tacksman rather than all the teneants, and because only the tenants, those who paid rents for land were listed. Cottars, not only the agricultural labourers but artisans such as shoemakers and tailors who did not rely primarily on farming to feed their families, do not appear on the lists. From 1818 to 1822 there were two Angus MacMillans in Daliburgh. There is ten a gap in the record to 1835 and by then there were no MacMillans in the township. No Neil MacMillan was ever listed between 1811 and 1838.
The MacPhees always claim to have been progeny of a Spanish sailor wrecked as the Spanish Armada fled round the north of Scotland in 1588, meeting a local girl and taking her name. They will give you a 14 man sloinneadh over the farm gate and, at 30 yrs per generation, this rather fits the timing. for generations they had secuity of tenure on the litle island of Hestimul in the sound between Benbecula and South Uist.
There is a very good book on piping in South Uist called \'When Piping was Strong\' by Joshua Dickson. Angus |
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Posted by: sheldon sim on 14-07-2012 |
The family will be keeping the MacMillan tartan, but its good to know ones history after all they were the piper MacMillans of Cape Breaton. but only a few now play. |
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Posted by: Angus MacMillan on 13-07-2012 |
Neil [often Niel rather than our modern spelling, and earlier Gaelic Niall] was and remains in common usage and I do not think would have been more than usually prevalent in Clan MacNeil.
Certainly the use of the name MacMillan had nothing to do with beefing up numbers of the mainland clan. South Uist was both the wrong place and the timing was too early for the essentially Victorian clan competitions to be biggest and oldest.
For my part, given my name, I have always tended to use the mainland clan tartan despite probably being quite unrelated. Knowing your MacNeil roots, you could abviously use MacNeil of Barra. Given the location of your family, the alternative I suppose would be Clanranald. Angus |
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Posted by: sheldon sim on 13-07-2012 |
Yes we have quite a few McMullin families on this side of the pond as well.
We are well into our 9th generation , so I do not think my cousins liked the fact that they are not related to the clan in Scotland.
So would they have a tartan?
We have had many Neils in the family did the name come from Mac Neil?
Clan MacMillan of Uist. Were we put on the Clan MacMillin list, to add to their numbers. |
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Posted by: Angus MacMillan on 07-07-2012 |
There is no evidence but it seems entirely possible. The two things that I can think of that might throw light on the issue are:
(a) whether you can establish that the separate families emigrated together or to neighbouring locations; there was a distinct tendency for people who spoke only Gaelic and were culturally distinct to go in groups and cluster together. Any evidence on timing or geography?
(b) We don\'t actually know for sure that the group is as tiny as it appears: there are quite a few MacMillan families in the southern part of South Uist that might just be of the same ancestry.
Even then, it would hardly be a broad constituency so one event must be favourite. How do you see it? Angus |
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Posted by: sheldon sim on 07-07-2012 |
Hello again
If this is a tiny group of three or four familys with the norse marker,
would this also mean that we all descend from the one MacNeil? |
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